Before anything, I would like to say first that I admire you so much for all the efforts you’ve done on this site and also for all the great, helpful information you’ve shared. And thanks as your site has been a great help to millions of poker enthusiasts.

Well, now, I would like to share with you why I am here. I would like to ask something about exposing turn card.

At a certain poker room, the turn card was disregarded and for the flop betting round the action was completed. Afterwards, the dealer burned a card and then turned it up. It would have been the river card actually.

Eventually, betting round started and right after the dealer shuffled the cards that were left which included the card that was exposed for the turn. And without burning a card, he then turned the river card.

In your own point of view, should the card exposed at the turn be the only card changed? And that such card still can come out on the river eventually?

What do you think? Any thoughts?

I’m looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks again and congrats for the site!

Stubblefield
Stubblefield,

What you witnessed is one way to take care of a problem of exposing the turn early. The card at the turn is the only card that needed to be changed. And yes, there are times that this will result in the same card coming out on the river.

The above example is probably the fairest way to resolve an early turn card.

In a cash NL game held yesterday, I was the dealer. Unfortunately, I made a mistake. The player to act first placed a bet right after the flop. I remember he had a caller then. A player was in the hand, however his cards were concealed behind his hand and it was an honest mistake, I forgot he was still in the hand. Turn card came and I flipped it over before he made a move. Just few seconds after, he announced that he was going to call and therefore the hand continued.

Any comments about what happened? Base on the rules, was everything acceptable?

Thanks!

Landon Woffer
Landon,

If I were there, I would have let it go with the way it happened. In a casino, it is the call of the floor person. Some may let it go at his word and others may require that you pull back the turn and burn and turn a new turn. Then you take the old turn card, put it back in the deck, shuffle it, and then burn and turn the river.

In a certain holdem event, me and two other players were down to the river. If I could remember it right, I need a club on the river to make a flush. River card came and of course I was hoping to have the card I wanted. Then when I saw light, I therefore called all in. Player 2 then asked how much and so I counted my chips. Player 2 suddenly said that I better have a hundred or so. Then few seconds passed and I revealed my cards, A high flush. Player 3 was upset then as he already doesn’t have the opportunity to call the all in because of what I did.

Any comments about the incident? Also, do you think I should have been eliminated from the hand as I have flipped my cards over?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Nathan Lewis
Nathan,

You are not eliminated from the hand. Player 3 has the opportunity to still call. You must act first. You cost yourself some bets, but that is all. Your hand is not dead.

I played holdem with some family members just this evening. I admit most of us are just newbies.

At near mid part, three were left for the pot including me. With a small pot, I went all-in. Two other players had more chips than me, later, they called my bet. Flop then came. However, two cards were not revealed.

Do you think the two other players should have continued to bid on the turn and river card, actually right after I called all-in? Or else with the other two players, the two cards may have just been flipped with no more side bidding? Any idea?

Thanks!

Regards,
Darrel Koester
Darrel,

Your two opponents have the option to bet or not to bet after they call your all in bet. They must still at least check it down on the flop, turn, and river.

I oftentimes play at casinos. Well, there’s actually one thing I notice, players there usually show their hand to the player sitting next to them or to other players around. At first, I don’t mind, however, as of now I find such kind of practice not helpful at all, most especially to the player who showed his hand.

Tomorrow, I’ll be going to the casino to play and I don’t know what to do. I’m bothered and I definitely want to do something about the practice I have discovered. However, I don’t want to look as if I’m mingling with the affairs of the room or the casino though I’m not in the position to do that.

In your own opinion, is the practice I’ve come to discover legal and ethical?

And another thing, can you help me with my problem about mucked hands. Right now, I still don’t know when to show my hand. Say we’re actually on the river and then I bet and so you called. I believe I have to show my hand then, but am I right for saying that I don’t have the right to see your hand because I’m the bettor? What’s your thoughts on this? And is it true that all players who called a river are obliged to show their hands at the end, and then a player will reveal his hand and then other players will just muck as they know they can’t win eventually? Any idea?

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thank you so much!

All the best,
Jon Lewis
Jon,

This is not an illegal practice as long as the players are not in the hand. However, you may request the dealer show everyone the hand since they showed the hand to other players.

A player that calls your bet at the end has the right to see your hand. If you muck your hand, they can request it be shown. In showing down hands, the player that makes the last aggressive action should be the one to show his hand first. In the event both players check down the hand, then the player closest to the button must show first.

I got the chance to read your comment about the rule on show one show all. Well, I’m not sure but to me it appeared that in the event I am in a hand to the river and I call someone else’s´ bet, and he has me beat, he has the right to see what I have. Am I right? I admit, in my opinion, if this is the case it’s actually unfair.

Let’s assume that you have a pair. Then you bet into someone from pre-flop to river and fortunately was able to have the third card to have a winning set. It would be nice then if you could ascertain if you actually need such card or not. And on the part of the losing player, well, it’s up to him to show you if you were correct with your findings.

Any comment?

Thanks in advance!

Chris Brown
Chris,

It doesn’t matter if he has you beat or not. If he calls your bet on the river, he has the right to see your hand. He paid for the right to see your hand and can exercise it. If you paid money to see a movie, you would expect to be allowed to see the film right? The movie theatre can’t take your money and say, “Oh, we don’t feel like allowing you to watch the movie.”

At later part, someone who had folded looked at my cards and then announced that I had an Ace. Do you think it was a misdeal? If so, then what should happen next? Also, in case a player who is not actually in, reveals someone else’s hand, is there anything he has to face? Just an information, I allowed him to look at my cards but not to announce what are they.

Thanks!

Eddie McBright
Eddie,

This is not a misdeal, but in a casino, the floor should be called. Chances are he will receive a warning. There is a good chance they will kick him out. Personally, I would have kicked him out of the game.

You should not show your cards to anyone else while you are in a hand.

Just recently, I played poker with twelve men I personally don’t know. At mid part of the game, I remember I only had a 10/4 off suit. Actually, until the river cards, I was checking and betting with a certain guy. I tried to bluff as much as I can recall, however I’m not sure if we checked on the river or if either one of us placed a bet. Eventually, I revealed a pair of 4′s while he had a pair of six’s. We both knew then that he had won the pot.

Later, I just mucked my other card without letting him know what it was. But the guy was so rude, he grabbed my card and looked at it as if no one was around him. Honestly, I was so mad at the guy. I believe if he wanted to see my card he can ask the dealer to turn my card over.

Any comment on what happened to me and with the other guy?

Thanks!

Karl Bynum
Karl,

The player has the right to see the card, but he is supposed to ask the dealer to show the card. He was being rude. At most it is just poor etiquette.

For roughly 6 years now, I’ve been playing no limit poker. I haven’t yet encountered a really serious problem but there’s one incident that happened just recently that somehow has troubled me.

On television last week, I got the chance to watch a high-stakes cash game by which two players went all-in. On the board back then was 910J. Player A had KJ while player B had AA. Both players opted not to show cards so nobody has an idea as to who has the chance to win the pot. However, turn came and was A. River followed and eventually affirmed that player B with AA will be the winner. But later on, they agreed to draw the turn and river again and so they had a K. Obviously, player A with KJ has the winning hand. In the end, they just divided the pot.

Can you please explain to me what happened? Why did player B agreed to draw the turn and river again?

Thanks in advance.

Carlson
Carlson,

This is a normal occurrence in a cash game at high stakes. This is known as “running it twice.” The reason that a player would agree to this is because if he happens to win both run, he gets double the money. If the all in player loses both, he must come up with that amount at some point to pay to that player. If they both win one, they chop the pot. In the event the player that was all in somehow sucked out and won two times running it twice, they would win double their money.

In the tournament I was into last night, the hand was dealt to the river by which both players went all-in and a player was eliminated. Quite bothering, right after the hands were flipped and the pot was awarded, some of us at the table noticed that there was an extra card flopped that was stuck behind another card. Personally, I believe it was not a misdeal as it was seen right after everything was finished. Am I right?

Thanks in advance!

Truly,
David Abrams
David,

It depends on whether the extra card was in a players hand or on the board. If it was in the player’s hand, then it was a misdeal.

If the extra card was on the flop, then depending on where the extra card occurred, the board may have to be redealt. If the extra card was on the flop, then the entire board will need to be redealt. If the all-in was before the flop, this does not affect betting. If it was after, then all betting after the flop is nullified and the flop, turn, and river must be replayed. If the extra card was on the turn, then the extra card must be taken out from under the turn card, and the river replayed. If the extra card was on the river, no action is necessary. In the event that any street must be replayed, the next should be shuffled once and cut once before the street or streets are replayed.